it is astonishing, and remember when nancy pelosi said we will know what is in the bill when we read it. now we are finally finding of commands that me tell you, it is frightening. one of the things of the cbo found call entitlement spending, obamacare, medicare, medicaid, all of this together to met will exceed spending for everything else, even defense, social security, health care is going to be everything. is that good news for americans? what should we do about it? >> it is not good news for americans. in fact, it is scary news. not just for people who care, say, but defense, but also for people to care about our ability to fund and thailand programs because by the end of this decade we will be paying close to a jillion dollars per year just in interest on our national debt. that could happen sooner to depending on what happens to inrest rates in the deficits. we are getting to that point. the difference in terms of real pain now in interest among we will be paying and is more than our entire defense budget which is a pretty big deal. gerri: here is another number that blew me a